Ability to dissasemble the floor
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Ability to dissasemble the floor
So, we can pretty much manually construct and deconstruct everything in this game. From walls to machines to piping to computers. All can be manually deconstructed or constructed.
Except one thing, and that is the floor. Outside of RCDs, borgs, bombs and really hot fires and emmaged floor bots theres no manual way to remove the floor. Why is this a thing? Considering how piss easy it is to build lattice + floor tiles it really shouldn't be a big balance issue. Make it a long process similar to dissasembling a r-wall. There's really no reason to not be able to dissasemble the floor.
Except one thing, and that is the floor. Outside of RCDs, borgs, bombs and really hot fires and emmaged floor bots theres no manual way to remove the floor. Why is this a thing? Considering how piss easy it is to build lattice + floor tiles it really shouldn't be a big balance issue. Make it a long process similar to dissasembling a r-wall. There's really no reason to not be able to dissasemble the floor.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
It is pretty random yes that an RCD does it in seconds.burts wrote:So, we can pretty much manually construct and deconstruct everything in this game. From walls to machines to piping to computers. All can be manually deconstructed or constructed.
Except one thing, and that is the floor. Outside of RCDs, borgs, bombs and really hot fires and emmaged floor bots theres no manual way to remove the floor. Why is this a thing? Considering how piss easy it is to build lattice + floor tiles it really shouldn't be a big balance issue. Make it a long process similar to dissasembling a r-wall. There's really no reason to not be able to dissasemble the floor.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
The reason put out in the past is balance- if all it took to disassemble the floor was common tools, it would be very easy to create a hole to space, which is very problematic.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
Drynwyn wrote:The reason put out in the past is balance- if all it took to disassemble the floor was common tools, it would be very easy to create a hole to space, which is very problematic.
If it takes a while it would be ok.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
you rarely need to decon a floor and those who do likely can get their hands on an rcd so its fine
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
Drynwyn wrote:The reason put out in the past is balance- if all it took to disassemble the floor was common tools, it would be very easy to create a hole to space, which is very problematic.
Really? It's piss easy to fix a hole like that, it literally takes 1 second to use rods + floor tile and you are done. If we go by the idea that dissasembling a floor tile would still leave the lattice intact, only a crowbar is needed to pry off a neighbouring tile and seal the breach.
You can always make it take alot of time with many steps, perhaps even more than a R-WALL, and require it to use the welding tool 3-4 times so you cant really do it without a welding helmet. I really dont see the issue here.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
How about no...
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
Air is harder to fix, one single hole could make a room unusable without hardsuit until someone brings a canister, while also venting all the items into the hole making a huge mess.burts wrote:Drynwyn wrote:The reason put out in the past is balance- if all it took to disassemble the floor was common tools, it would be very easy to create a hole to space, which is very problematic.
Really? It's piss easy to fix a hole like that, it literally takes 1 second to use rods + floor tile and you are done. If we go by the idea that dissasembling a floor tile would still leave the lattice intact, only a crowbar is needed to pry off a neighbouring tile and seal the breach.
You can always make it take alot of time with many steps, perhaps even more than a R-WALL, and require it to use the welding tool 3-4 times so you cant really do it without a welding helmet. I really dont see the issue here.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
But you can also just smash a single window that is exposed to space and have the same effect.XDTM wrote:Air is harder to fix, one single hole could make a room unusable without hardsuit until someone brings a canister, while also venting all the items into the hole making a huge mess.burts wrote:Drynwyn wrote:The reason put out in the past is balance- if all it took to disassemble the floor was common tools, it would be very easy to create a hole to space, which is very problematic.
Really? It's piss easy to fix a hole like that, it literally takes 1 second to use rods + floor tile and you are done. If we go by the idea that dissasembling a floor tile would still leave the lattice intact, only a crowbar is needed to pry off a neighbouring tile and seal the breach.
You can always make it take alot of time with many steps, perhaps even more than a R-WALL, and require it to use the welding tool 3-4 times so you cant really do it without a welding helmet. I really dont see the issue here.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
Every room has a floor (literally, by definition), while very few rooms have windows to space.CPTANT wrote:But you can also just smash a single window that is exposed to space and have the same effect.XDTM wrote:Air is harder to fix, one single hole could make a room unusable without hardsuit until someone brings a canister, while also venting all the items into the hole making a huge mess.burts wrote:Drynwyn wrote:The reason put out in the past is balance- if all it took to disassemble the floor was common tools, it would be very easy to create a hole to space, which is very problematic.
Really? It's piss easy to fix a hole like that, it literally takes 1 second to use rods + floor tile and you are done. If we go by the idea that dissasembling a floor tile would still leave the lattice intact, only a crowbar is needed to pry off a neighbouring tile and seal the breach.
You can always make it take alot of time with many steps, perhaps even more than a R-WALL, and require it to use the welding tool 3-4 times so you cant really do it without a welding helmet. I really dont see the issue here.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
Uhm that's not really true, there are lot's of windows to space. And you can do the same with walls, which are connected to space even more, and all you need is a welder.Shaps-cloud wrote:Every room has a floor (literally, by definition), while very few rooms have windows to space.CPTANT wrote:But you can also just smash a single window that is exposed to space and have the same effect.XDTM wrote:Air is harder to fix, one single hole could make a room unusable without hardsuit until someone brings a canister, while also venting all the items into the hole making a huge mess.burts wrote:Drynwyn wrote:The reason put out in the past is balance- if all it took to disassemble the floor was common tools, it would be very easy to create a hole to space, which is very problematic.
Really? It's piss easy to fix a hole like that, it literally takes 1 second to use rods + floor tile and you are done. If we go by the idea that dissasembling a floor tile would still leave the lattice intact, only a crowbar is needed to pry off a neighbouring tile and seal the breach.
You can always make it take alot of time with many steps, perhaps even more than a R-WALL, and require it to use the welding tool 3-4 times so you cant really do it without a welding helmet. I really dont see the issue here.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
Would it be possible to make it so that removing a floor manually would require the room to already be depressurized? It might prevent people from just doing it to create hull beaches and it'd kinds of make sense from a realism standpoint since I'd imagine it would be pretty hard to rip up a floor tile if there was a vacuum holding it in place.
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Re: Ability to dissasemble the floor
Get a RCD.
Though I suppose maybe this could work if it took like 15 seconds to weld the floor open.
Though I suppose maybe this could work if it took like 15 seconds to weld the floor open.
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