Give the eguns to the heads of staff
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Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Remove 3 eguns from armory
Give egun to CMO, RD, CE. All heads (and only heads) would now have eguns, so they could be fluffed as an officers sidearm or something.
Pros: Guns are more spread out, so lowpop+stolen empty armory isn't quite as disastrous. Heads of staff could defend their departments etc in low pop.
Cons: Would be easier to get a gun initially and snowball by killing the CMO. Security (more like the warden/HoS who always take all the guns) have less firepower.
Rate the idea etc
Give egun to CMO, RD, CE. All heads (and only heads) would now have eguns, so they could be fluffed as an officers sidearm or something.
Pros: Guns are more spread out, so lowpop+stolen empty armory isn't quite as disastrous. Heads of staff could defend their departments etc in low pop.
Cons: Would be easier to get a gun initially and snowball by killing the CMO. Security (more like the warden/HoS who always take all the guns) have less firepower.
Rate the idea etc
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Nah, it'd just encourage greyshits to mug heads round start
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
But if they try and mug me I can shoot them?
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
telebatons are a bit neutered so i guess ya
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
It'd maybe help the CMO last more than two seconds in rev.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
I do not trust the average head of staff with a gun tbh
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Head antags (Tators, gangs, shadowlings) would start with lethals right away though. I dunno how I feel about that.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
I have no strong feelings, one way or the other.
(If you must then consider giving heads of staff a crummy two shot taser as a sidearm)
(If you must then consider giving heads of staff a crummy two shot taser as a sidearm)
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
i rather give them disablers then auctall eguns with a kill setting
EDIT:you know those crappy disablers that can be ordered at cargo but nobody ever uses it
EDIT:you know those crappy disablers that can be ordered at cargo but nobody ever uses it
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Meh, eguns are pretty shitty if you get caught in CQC
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
So long as the eguns in the armory are replaced with Laser rifles or something, it's supposed to be 6 officers 6 lethals for when shit goes south.
Otherwise it actually sounds like a decent idea.
Otherwise it actually sounds like a decent idea.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Why would civilian heads of staff carry carbine-sized guns in the first place? Create new laser pistols, similar to the pulse pistol that ert gets, for self defense.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
The eguns are clearly pistol sized, that's why you only need one hand to use them.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Shoot the plebs heads of staff forever.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
HELLO CARGO DISABLERS!
with the shitty Old egun sprite AKA pistol sized
with the shitty Old egun sprite AKA pistol sized
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Come on. It's clearly a FAMAS. Maybe Uzi, but it still has forward grip for two hand use. It's clearly not pistol sized. Ion rifle has largest sprite and you use it with one hand as well so lets not split hairs.Cheimon wrote:The eguns are clearly pistol sized, that's why you only need one hand to use them.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Well the HoP gets one, and he's clearly a fucking civ. And the fit on instead of belts, shotguns can't do that so they are smaller than that.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Yeah, and the consensus seems to be that egun is too powerful to have 3 more pieces floating in the wild with other heads, and getting removed from the armory. So lets just give all heads laser handguns instead. It's fancy.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
I don't see no fuckin' consensus out there.
Make a poll.
Make a poll.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Disablers aren't that much more dangerous than lasers. Often it is better to kill/crit than to hog tie when the shot amounts are that similar to reach either state.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Hey that's mine!
Well, Paprika added the hand guard.
Do the other head's of staff really need a personal gun on them at round start though?
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Steelpoint wrote:Do the other head's of staff really need a personal gun on them at round start though?
I don't know. My point is that if you want all Heads to have a gun, it should be something more appropriate and unique (and maybe not as powerful) as Egun.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Here's an idea - disabler pistols. They only shoot disablers (and less than a hybrid taser), but they're small items so you can fit them in your pocket.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Shit sprite
The grip is too small
We have 5 fingers, not 3
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
I just want laser pistols to be a thing, I don't care where or how.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
No. I advise you walk in the opposite direction of this, address the reasons that lead to this kind of solution.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Ezel wrote:HELLO CARGO DISABLERS!
with the shitty Old egun sprite AKA pistol sized
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
In theory it sounds like a good idea, with heads of staff being able to deal with shitters, but in actuality it's just going to be heads of staff antags going on massive murderbones with laser guns because of course they would.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
ahem spessmen have no visible fingers, they have a single mitten-like handpartyackemflam wrote:
We have 5 fingers, not 3
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Personally the telebaton is the most powerful weapon in the game if you use it right.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Only a shitty CMO doesn't last less that 2 seconds.Screemonster wrote:It'd maybe help the CMO last more than two seconds in rev.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
We can't code player natureScott wrote:No. I advise you walk in the opposite direction of this, address the reasons that lead to this kind of solution.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Ezel wrote:HELLO CARGO DISABLERS!
with the shitty Old egun sprite AKA pistol sized
This guy's basically got it. Give the heads a sort of self recharging disabler. For most cases, I don't think the heads really need to be running around with lethal weapons. A disabler that automatically recharges itself over time though, would definitely come in handy without being too over the top while also complimenting the telescopic baton as a stun weapon designed more for quickly booting people out of your department.
Isn't the HoP basically the second in the chain of command if the captain dies? If so, it makes sense that he gets an egun.Davidchan wrote:Well the HoP gets one, and he's clearly a fucking civ. And the fit on instead of belts, shotguns can't do that so they are smaller than that.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Jacough wrote:Ezel wrote:HELLO CARGO DISABLERS!
with the shitty Old egun sprite AKA pistol sized
It shouldnt auto recharge then it be OP heads have access to their department sec checkpoint anyways so they can recharge herethe guy above me wrote:This guy's basically got it. Give the heads a sort of self recharging disabler. For most cases, I don't think the heads really need to be running around with lethal weapons. A disabler that automatically recharges itself over time though, would definitely come in handy without being too over the top while also complimenting
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Give the heads of staff a console that gibs their workers and give the captain a console that gibs the heads of staff.
As borg detractors have taught us such a machine is near inconsequential and everything will be fine.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
What? It's just a chunky pistol. It looks nothing like a famas. The ion rifle is a fair point though, but at least that looks like a rifle and you can't shove it in your backpack. Here:Lumbermancer wrote:Come on. It's clearly a FAMAS. Maybe Uzi, but it still has forward grip for two hand use. It's clearly not pistol sized. Ion rifle has largest sprite and you use it with one hand as well so lets not split hairs.Cheimon wrote:The eguns are clearly pistol sized, that's why you only need one hand to use them.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Pistols don't have collapsible stocks dude.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Sure, but I rest my case.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Yes! This is it! Now that you mention it, the energy gun is clearly based on an MP7.Steelpoint wrote:But MP7's do.
Make it so.
That is to say, a machine pistol. It looks just like one, apart from the sights and ammunition display.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Sure. That's why handgun should be a sidearm.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Gorman was by no means the HoP.
That job went to the corporate lackey who also attended this clusterfuck.
That job went to the corporate lackey who also attended this clusterfuck.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
I think an egun for each head is a fine assistant removal tool, as well as being able to actually demote people on their own.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
Gorman was the utter condom captain who logged in once, waited a few weeks, then set captain to high as soon as the playerage lock cleared because he wanted to be the leader.DemonFiren wrote:Gorman was by no means the HoP.
That job went to the corporate lackey who also attended this clusterfuck.
Carter Burke was definitely tatorhop.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
I don't know about this. HoP gets a gun and you see HoPcurity shitters pretty frequently. I don't wanna see CMOcurity or CEcurity.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
With the firing pins, RD doesn't need a disabler anyway
Hint, hint.
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Re: Give the eguns to the heads of staff
HoPcurity spawns more from the all access, they used to have sec channel on their headsets but that's gone. Cecurity happens a fair bit anyways between telebaton, stunprod and cable cuffs, and we still have CMOs who will hellmix anyone who pisses them off valid or not.
If getting a free gun was all people cared about bartender would always be filled, its usually open or the barkeep is braindead in his backroom twenty minutes into the shift.
I also hardly see how an egun is too powerful, you get just enough shots to kill one person or crit two, where as the cap and hos both have self charging guns AND a backup egun.
If getting a free gun was all people cared about bartender would always be filled, its usually open or the barkeep is braindead in his backroom twenty minutes into the shift.
I also hardly see how an egun is too powerful, you get just enough shots to kill one person or crit two, where as the cap and hos both have self charging guns AND a backup egun.
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