Are AI laws applied retroactively?

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Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by Lumbermancer » #166699

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Case.

HoS murders people, cremates them. AI gets angry, "HoS you bad guy I will lock you down to prevent harm". HoS adds law saying designated gangsters ain't human. "Hey AI they were gangsters". Oh cool that means you are not a bad guy anymore.

Yes or no? I think no. Law only works from the moment it's uploaded.
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Re: Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by callanrockslol » #170638

Or just bolt him in the room with power off and ID disabled so he can never leave.
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Re: Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #170701

I'd bolt him and call security, then holopad and offer to let him out in exchange for leaving the revolver behind.
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Re: Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by yackemflam » #171300

I just realize something, what defines a gangster?

Solution to this is just to follow the changeling rule.

If you did not see them do things that are `ganglike` (tagging, wearing matching uniform, shooting others, etc) then everyone human is still human.
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Re: Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by peoplearestrange » #171308

My 10 pence would be that AI laws are always for the current situation. As soon as a new lawset is uploaded old information is invalid and must be re-evaluated from the ground up.

For example if an antimov AI releases plasma and then is law changed back to asmiov you'd assume the AI would try to remove the plasma, not just let it hang there.
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Re: Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by TheNightingale » #171392

When you get a law saying "shock every door on the station", and then you spend twenty minutes shocking every door you see - and then the law is removed, and you have to unshock them, that's 'fun'.
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Re: Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by Anonmare » #171411

Downside to playing AI. Try to unshock doors when asked and basically act in good faith. Ideally start with doors in high-usage and work your way from there.
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Re: Are AI laws applied retroactively?

Post by starmute » #173447

Lumbermancer wrote:Case.

HoS murders people, cremates them. AI gets angry, "HoS you bad guy I will lock you down to prevent harm". HoS adds law saying designated gangsters ain't human. "Hey AI they were gangsters". Oh cool that means you are not a bad guy anymore.

Yes or no? I think no. Law only works from the moment it's uploaded.

See it from a computers point of view.

Its previous laws have been erased and replaced with new ones. It now has a reason to believe that perhaps HOS's actions were justified, however it will scan its previous database to see i in fact the cremated person was a gangster and if it has insufficient evidence still make the conclusion that HOS is bad.
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