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wubli wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:35 pm
this reminds me of that guy who was really sweet and wholesome 100 on the forums but then on dms he told me he thought i was mentally ill for liking women "but not a bad person" AND that adopted children aren't real children AND that bisexuals were a threat to his future (biological) son because they may give him aids
there's so many colourful characters on tg
At college there was this guy in the student leadership who wasn't popular in the normal sense, but was well known and well networked and thought of as a generally wholesome guy.
One day he was working the front desk of the college computer repair/help ""shop"" I was the unofficial supervisor of (I was a college student so i couldn't be the real supervisor), and a transwomen i checked in the day before came to pick up her laptop. He tripped over himself for a second but turned his charisma face back on and checked her out without issue, didn't give her shit about her id not matching the file or anything! (I had left a note on the intake form just in case)
Once she left however he opened his mouth and I could never look at him the same way again.
Religion does things to a person. Terrible things.
Fucking brain worms.
It was slightly awkward too because the tech standing next to him was a transman but I was the only one there who knew so I had to hide my cringe.
You shouldn't be intolerant of peoples religious beliefs mr stoned one
Religion is a choice.
One that leads to people thinking they are right with god while raping aboriginal children they stole from their parents to "desavage them".
I used to be an atheist edgelord, and then i found out about residential schools. Now I want to seriously ban all religion. Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.
Being asshole is a choice, religion is something that is misused by assholes to justify it. Plenty of indigenous people were killed for irreligious reasons.
I have seen plenty of people surrender their critical thinking to things that weren't religion. I've seen people say genocide is justifiable because they can't get their dick wet. I've seen people say its ok to strip mine lithium and poison the rainforest because a scientist said if they don't the world will Literally Be Set Aflame. You can't make being a retard illegal. The nazis tried that and everyone got super mad about it.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm
There are bad religious people and there are good religious people. Some people use religion as an excuse to hate, some people use politics, some people use nationality, it really doesn't matter. Don't pick on religion just because some religious people are awful.
It's an incredibly rich, deep sphere of human history and belief and there are a loooot of people way smarter than us that have dedicated their lives to its study and development, so to dismiss it all based on your anecdotal experience of stupid people doing stupid things that happen to also be religious, is shortsighted and kind of obtuse frankly.
Don't care, Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.
That's the nature of any ideology, religion just instantiates that into a spiritual being
Sadly most are anti-weed, even those that like drugs prefer shrooms or ayahuasca or something, so there won't be changing of the minds of the stoned one this time around, sinful. It is a foolish endeavor, I say!
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sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm
There are bad religious people and there are good religious people. Some people use religion as an excuse to hate, some people use politics, some people use nationality, it really doesn't matter. Don't pick on religion just because some religious people are awful.
It's an incredibly rich, deep sphere of human history and belief and there are a loooot of people way smarter than us that have dedicated their lives to its study and development, so to dismiss it all based on your anecdotal experience of stupid people doing stupid things that happen to also be religious, is shortsighted and kind of obtuse frankly.
Don't care, Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.
That's the nature of any ideology, religion just instantiates that into a spiritual being
Sadly most are anti-weed, even those that like drugs prefer shrooms or ayahuasca or something, so there won't be changing of the minds of the stoned one this time around, sinful. It is a foolish endeavor, I say!
Church incense used to be weed smoke.
Psychedelics have always been an inroad into spiritual experience which goes hand in hand with religion
wubli wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:35 pm
this reminds me of that guy who was really sweet and wholesome 100 on the forums but then on dms he told me he thought i was mentally ill for liking women "but not a bad person" AND that adopted children aren't real children AND that bisexuals were a threat to his future (biological) son because they may give him aids
there's so many colourful characters on tg
Once she left however he opened his mouth and I could never look at him the same way again.
Religion does things to a person. Terrible things.
Fucking brain worms.
It was slightly awkward too because the tech standing next to him was a transman but I was the only one there who knew so I had to hide my cringe.
"they can always tell" btw lol
I can't imagine how shitty it must've been for the trans guy. testosterone works a lot faster in terms of body changes so trans men probably get this a lot
it's getting worse though because even religious people can simply not give a fuck. being loudly homophobic or transphobic is a choice, I'd dare to say without any sources that most people just don't give a fuck what others do, even if they don't understand it. because why would you?
they like to pretend that kids will get confused as if children weren't the most likely to be accepting. every story you hear of someone explaining to a kid why that other child has two moms is "Ok cool" and not "I'm so confused I'm gay now !!!"
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sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm
There are bad religious people and there are good religious people. Some people use religion as an excuse to hate, some people use politics, some people use nationality, it really doesn't matter. Don't pick on religion just because some religious people are awful.
It's an incredibly rich, deep sphere of human history and belief and there are a loooot of people way smarter than us that have dedicated their lives to its study and development, so to dismiss it all based on your anecdotal experience of stupid people doing stupid things that happen to also be religious, is shortsighted and kind of obtuse frankly.
Don't care, Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.
by allowing someone to tell me what i can and can't believe, am i not surrendering my critical thinking to a higher power anyway? being nonreligious has never stopped anyone from being racist/sexist/lgbtq-phobic. some people just use religion as a justification to hold bigoted beliefs.
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Boot wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:48 pm
White lives matter.
Not really posting at the people I'm quoting but this line makes me so upset.
White is a spook people falling for it makes me so mad I stg.
It's only a classifier in that it groups people who used to be minorities but became a part of the larger group over time. It's as useful as calling people mutt, but based off skin color.
Stop letting 4chan ops, truisms and scientific/religious racism define your identity. It's maddening.
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Boot wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:48 pm
White lives matter.
Not really posting at the people I'm quoting but this line makes me so upset.
White is a spook people falling for it makes me so mad I stg.
It's only a classifier in that it groups people who used to be minorities but became a part of the larger group over time. It's as useful as calling people mutt, but based off skin color.
Stop letting 4chan ops, truisms and scientific/religious racism define your identity. It's maddening.
So is black, what? You think Yorubas are the same as the Khoisan? It'd be a mouthful to say "Yoruba, Igbo, Kongo, Khoisan, Zulu, etc etc Lives Matter" and it's the same with "whites", it'd be a mouthful to say "Oh Irish, Italian, Spanish, English ,Welsh, etc etc lives matter" and so on, people have these broad categories because it makes things easier for the average person. That includes when it comes to hatred. A white nationalist ain't gonna check if you're a Tutsi or a Hutu before he discriminates you against being black and neither will the anti-white check if you're Italian or English before he does the same.
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MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 8:41 pm
ok and?
Resident schools wasn't just 1 person. there were countless staff who all stood by and did nothing because the man of god told them to.
Religion was created to control, created to brainwash, and it can not be allowed to exist.
There are plenty of atrocities committed by those with more atheistic tendencies as well, unless you think men like Stalin were tried-and-true churchgoers who had chapels built in their Dacha.
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AsbestosSniffer wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:10 am
So is black, what? ..., people have these broad categories because it makes things easier for the average person. That includes when it comes to hatred. A white nationalist ain't gonna check if you're a Tutsi or a Hutu before he discriminates you against being black and neither will the anti-white check if you're Italian or English before he does the same.
U right, and?
The phrase strikes me as at best a defense from what I think is a nearly non-existent threat, or at worst is rhetoric from literally just nazis designed to create a false division in people's minds in order to advance their political goals. That and stoking weird ass headlines that make the phrase look like a truism, which it is taken with no context.
S a spook
(I have done some research and come to the horrifying conclusion that this is still a thing people post about like, in real life. I thought White Lives Matter died in 2016 after those poster planting ops or whatever. Depression)
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wubli wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:42 pm
"they can always tell" btw lol
I can't imagine how shitty it must've been for the trans guy. testosterone works a lot faster in terms of body changes so trans men probably get this
a lot
it's getting worse though because even religious people can simply not give a fuck. being loudly homophobic or transphobic is a choice, I'd dare to say without any sources that most people just don't give a fuck what others do, even if they don't understand it. because why would you?
they like to pretend that kids will get confused as if children weren't the most likely to be accepting. every story you hear of someone explaining to a kid why that other child has two moms is "Ok cool" and not "I'm so confused I'm gay now !!!"
I dont think its bigoted to say you disagree with the idea the term "trans rights" is (1:1 synonymous with) "human rights", assuming thats what he was being contentious with and theres nothing damning outside of the context posted. If they were you wouldnt exactly need to make the distinction to begin with or frame it in such a way thats distinctly different from "trans people deserve human rights too".
Doubly so when the posted context looks like the individual he is talking to is trying to get an own on him.
The mentally ill remark from the screenshot would have made more sense to post i think.
wubli wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:42 pm
they like to pretend that kids will get confused as if children weren't the most likely to be accepting. every story you hear of someone explaining to a kid why that other child has two moms is "Ok cool" and not "I'm so confused I'm gay now !!!"
Cobby wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 5:11 pm
I dont think its bigoted to say you disagree with the idea the term "trans rights" is (1:1 synonymous with) "human rights", assuming thats what he was being contentious with and theres nothing damning outside of the context posted. If they were you wouldnt exactly need to make the distinction to begin with or frame it in such a way thats distinctly different from "trans people deserve human rights too".
Doubly so when the posted context looks like the individual he is talking to is trying to get an own on him.
The mentally ill remark from the screenshot would have made more sense to post i think.
TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:01 am
The phrase strikes me as at best a defense from what I think is a nearly non-existent threat,
[...]
(I have done some research and come to the horrifying conclusion that this is still a thing people post about like, in real life. I thought White Lives Matter died in 2016 after those poster planting ops or whatever. Depression)
It's inappropriate specialization and you know it. Its like fixing a bug that applies to all atmos calls, but only when called on renforced tiles. You can do better and you fucking know it.
Why end police brutality against black people when you can end it against all people?
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MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm
Why end police brutality against black people when you can end it against all people?
the point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatment
you dont see anyone waving a sign around to end police brutality against white people because there isnt a common, repeated trope of police brutality and mistreatment against white people
Black people do have a higher proportion of police deaths, but the proportion of white people dying to police is still very high. Just because black people die at a higher rate doesn't make it a black only issue. It's an issue when anyone dies at all.
it just feels a bit disingenuous when you use a phrase that was explicitly created as a counter movement by right-leaning/conservative groups to try and muddle and lessen the impact of a movement designed to bring to light that police brutality tends to target minorities, particularly black communities. "black lives matter" isn't them saying their lives matter more, its them reminding people they matter just as much too. most people saying "white lives matter" aren't saying it because they feel like they're disproportionately targeted and harassed by their police force.
yeah police brutality sucks and the end-goal generally should be efforts to retrain and integrate the police force better with communities but seeing a movement about a group who gets disproportionately targeted and going "nuh uh we get it just as bad" is like, exactly what they want you to do so said reform doesn't happen.
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kinnebian wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:57 pm
the point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatment
you dont see anyone waving a sign around to end police brutality against white people because there isnt a common, repeated trope of police brutality and mistreatment against white people
Did you even read the post you're replying to?
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm
Its like fixing a bug that applies to all atmos calls, but only when called on [floor tiles, the most common type of tile and thus the place where the bug would take place the most.
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kinnebian wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:57 pm
the point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatment
you dont see anyone waving a sign around to end police brutality against white people because there isnt a common, repeated trope of police brutality and mistreatment against white people
Did you even read the post you're replying to?
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm
Its like fixing a bug that applies to all atmos calls, but only when called on [floor tiles, the most common type of tile and thus the place where the bug would take place the most.
was trying to say whatever but miracles said what i wanted to say anyways
I don't give a fuck about statistics on this matter. I run a discord server for a video game community, i'm already well used to ignoring peopling using statistics to justify being exclusionary towards races. ("Despite only making up 13% of the population, african americans make up 39% of non-aggressors shot by police" motherfuckers get out.)
Either one of two things are true:
Black Lives Matters is about police brutality against black people, at which point white people very much *SHOULD* also take to the streets shouting white live matters to end police brutality against white people, and there is nothing wrong with doing so.
OR!
Black Lives Matters is about police brutality against all people, at which point it is the same thing as saying "all lives matters", and and there is nothing wrong with doing so.
I have zero respect for societies that try to read discrimination or bigotry out of every attempt to advocate for the """"MajoRitIeS"""".
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MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm
Why end police brutality against black people when you can end it against all people?
the point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatment
you dont see anyone waving a sign around to end police brutality against white people because there isnt a common, repeated trope of police brutality and mistreatment against white people
Nope, white people still make up a majority of people killed by police while not being an aggressor. its just that the number for black people is 3 times higher then it should be if it was proportional.
" The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
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Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am
Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm
" The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
Oppression olympics are for brainworms.
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MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 4:17 pm
Its almost like focusing only on the majority (of victims) is bad, and any solution has to be all encompassing and inclusive.
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Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm
" The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
But since you want a slam dunk argument against the black lives matters movement, i need only point to the time they marched on stage and stole the mic from somebody because they didn't like that person's skin color and gender and age.
I don't give a flying fuck what their excuse is, I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender, "privilege" bullshit be damned.
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Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm
" The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
But since you want a slam dunk argument against the black lives matters movement, i need only point to the time they marched on stage and stole the mic from somebody because they didn't like that person's skin color and gender and age.
I don't give a flying fuck what their excuse is, I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender, "privilege" bullshit be damned.
Those people are far from representing the whole movement your Stoney one.
In any group you’re gonna have your reactionaries and people who want to suppress other groups. It’s just the nature of humans, we’re tribal by default.
To counter your other point about “All lives matter”, the point of that phrase isn’t to support anti police violence. It was designed to “Take the wind out of the sails” of Black Lives Matter. Your all lives matter folks aren’t out marching in the street to cause change for the better, they are the status quo. They are the white moderate.
All lives do matter, but that’s not what that means. In response to BLM it means “All lives matter so stop complaining about it black people losing theirs”
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MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:33 pm
I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender
Just summarizing your standpoint, would slightly revising this as
"I will never show support to anybody who shows hostility towards any race or gender?"
sum up your view shared in this thread so far?
No.
I don't understand why people can't grasp this.
I will always react more strongly and more negatively towards hostility or bigotry towards my race and gender then others.
I hate both, but i hate hostility towards characteristics I personally share significantly more.
I would expect an asian woman to care significantly more about hostility towards asian women compared to how much as they care about hostility towards white or black men or women. Why do people get surprised when I say I care about bigotry against my own race and gender than others.
Empathy means looking at how I feel when subjected to bigotry and deciding i want to end it for all people. Which is why I feel even more betrayed when I find out the equality movements i backed wants to find excuses to exclude me and my characteristics from protections against bigotry, if not actively perpetuate the bigotry against me and my characteristics directly.
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Just summarizing your standpoint, would slightly revising this as
"I will never show support to anybody who shows hostility towards any race or gender?"
sum up your view shared in this thread so far?
No.
I don't understand why people can't grasp this.
I will always react more strongly and more negatively towards hostile towards my race and gender then others.
I hate both, but i hate hostility towards characteristics I personally share significantly more.
I would expect an asian woman to care significantly more about hostility towards asian women compared to how much as they care about hostility towards white or black men or women. Why do people get surprised when I say I care about bigotry against my own race and gender than others.
Empathy means looking at how I feel when subjected to bigotry to and deciding i want to end it for all people. Which is why I feel even more betrayed when I find out the equality movements i backed wants to find excuses to exclude me and my characteristics from protections against bigotry, if not actively perpetuate the bigotry against me and my characteristics directly.
First: thank you for the in-depth response.
I asked because I don't typically engage with you (or the rest of the community here) on a political level, and anyone with a real stake in any of these processes have had their view formed by decades worth of politics; subsequently, you can't really sum up the nuance to anybody's real political views in five forum posts. I haven't sat down and talked with you about why you have the views you do, and it's frustrating--if not outright offensive--if I don't bother to ask first.
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:08 pm
... the equality movements i backed wants to find excuses to exclude me and my characteristics from protections against bigotry, if not actively perpetuate the bigotry against me and my characteristics directly.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, but I haven't had this happen to me personally. Are you comfortable on sharing what specifically happened to lead to this viewpoint? I don't want this happening to me.
Boot wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 1:48 pm
White lives matter.
Not really posting at the people I'm quoting but this line makes me so upset.
White is a spook people falling for it makes me so mad I stg.
It's only a classifier in that it groups people who used to be minorities but became a part of the larger group over time. It's as useful as calling people mutt, but based off skin color.
Stop letting 4chan ops, truisms and scientific/religious racism define your identity. It's maddening.
ekaterina is really funny because they just consistently say what should be complete common sense "maybe we shouldnt ban people because they refuse to bend the knee to insane, radical social views that nobody ever heard of a decade ago" and then they get dogpiled by everyone in the thread
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm
" The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
But since you want a slam dunk argument against the black lives matters movement, i need only point to the time they marched on stage and stole the mic from somebody because they didn't like that person's skin color and gender and age.
I don't give a flying fuck what their excuse is, I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender, "privilege" bullshit be damned.
This isn't a slam dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement or slogan either and the fact that you think it is is confusing.
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There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am
Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
whats the point of a politics channel if expressing standard, average/normal """right-wing""" sentiments (that half of the world probably agrees with) is going to get you banned from the entire discord server? just rename it to "shitlib containment"