2k17 /pol/

[imblyings]

Bottom post of the previous page:

I didn't like how the egun looked so I made my own version, steelpoint repurposed it to be what it is now. The egun did always look like a mp7, maybe I did have that in mind when I made it.

[MrAlphonzo]

>Imagine its the headmin election, and bo-

>who really cares if the DNC and clinton were laughably corrupt and evil, even if they were, those darn republicans and drumpfkins must be just as evil!
>it was really evil of russia to interfere with our elections but please don't mind the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of lives lost due to the US meddling with elections and governments elsewhere
>[if we don't mention it then they won't realize the hacking was just our officials being dumb enough to fall for a phishing scam]

please take notes and help make america great again

Oh yeah I remember that time I said that Hillary and the DNC being corrupt wasn't a big deal.
Its not like you completely missed the point I was trying to put across, that dirt on the RNC and DNC is out there and only the dirty on the DNC was released.
I also remember saying that the US interfering in other elections wasn't a bad thing.
Oh wait.
I didn't.
Maybe I'm mistaken.

Please, quote me on those things.


There's no need to be a sarcastic cunt, either.

[Luke Cox]

Even though most of my beliefs are left-leaning, I'm glad that the mainstream left got the kick in the balls that was 2016. They had abandoned economic and scientific issues altogether in favor of bullshit identity politics. It needed to burn.

[imblyings]

>getting mad and frustrated

Quoting the wsj and RNC statements, apparently both dnc and rnc were hit by the same phishing emails. Only the dnc was dumb and incompetent enough to fall for them, with the rnc only having one instance of outdated emails being leaked. Looks like russia don't even have the dirty info on the rnc that you desperately claim they must have :^)))

blese dage nods and helb mage ameriga gread again :-DDDD

[Grazyn]

It always seemed to me that all the "dirt" on the DNC was just your everyday, run-of-the-mill political slime which is kinda expected from any party around the world. Backstabbing, planning and general sleaziness, you know it is there but you don't want to see it, just like they say you shouldn't watch how your food is made. Let's take the Sanders issue for examble, well duh, Bernie was a terrible candidate, of course the DNC made everything in their power to prevent him from winning the primaries (not that he had much of a chance in the first place but whatever). They were morons for falling for basic phishing techniques but the way americans acted with all the outrage at what is just regular behind-the-scenes politics is dumbfounding to me. It's like they've always lived in a fairy world. And those who unironically say "AH, see the democrats are EVIL, no way republicans (in bed with the military-industrial complex since time immemorial) or Trump (a ruthless entrepeneur who chewed and clawed his way to the top) ever did anything of the sort!" amaze me the most.

[PKPenguin321]

American
Politics
Are
A
Meme

[Super Aggro Crag]

U can't spell democrats without "Dem rats"

[calzilla1]

JUST REMEMBER THAT HILLDIG DESPERATELY WANTED TO BE THE LE EBIN MAYMAY PRESIDENT

[Cik]

It always seemed to me that all the "dirt" on the DNC was just your everyday, run-of-the-mill political slime which is kinda expected from any party around the world. Backstabbing, planning and general sleaziness, you know it is there but you don't want to see it, just like they say you shouldn't watch how your food is made. Let's take the Sanders issue for examble, well duh, Bernie was a terrible candidate, of course the DNC made everything in their power to prevent him from winning the primaries (not that he had much of a chance in the first place but whatever). They were morons for falling for basic phishing techniques but the way americans acted with all the outrage at what is just regular behind-the-scenes politics is dumbfounding to me. It's like they've always lived in a fairy world. And those who unironically say "AH, see the democrats are EVIL, no way republicans (in bed with the military-industrial complex since time immemorial) or Trump (a ruthless entrepeneur who chewed and clawed his way to the top) ever did anything of the sort!" amaze me the most.

>regular political slime

maybe if you are in venezuela

short list of literal crimes committed by hillary and friends:

conspiracy to commit voter fraud on a large scale
illegal collusion in extreme
conspiracy to destroy evidence relating to federal investigations
terrorism (encouraging political violence is literally terrorism lul)
soliciting illegal donations from highly questionable sources
influence peddling
perjury (questionable, but possible)
likely lied to the FBI (which is also a crime lul)

pick two of these things and you start approaching "deserves a firing squad" territory. god help you if any of this shit is "normal" where you live m8

note that this is just ILLEGAL things. the downright evil shit she's done or sanctioned is probably a hundred pages.

[Malkevin]

For a bunch of people fleeing a war zone they seem very happy to see things explode
[youtube]d1KzCa7E7hk[/youtube]
How nice and... enriching of them to put on a fireworks show, they make sure people get the full on close up experience by aiming the fireworks at them. Cretins.

[MrAlphonzo]

It always seemed to me that all the "dirt" on the DNC was just your everyday, run-of-the-mill political slime which is kinda expected from any party around the world. Backstabbing, planning and general sleaziness, you know it is there but you don't want to see it, just like they say you shouldn't watch how your food is made. Let's take the Sanders issue for examble, well duh, Bernie was a terrible candidate, of course the DNC made everything in their power to prevent him from winning the primaries (not that he had much of a chance in the first place but whatever). They were morons for falling for basic phishing techniques but the way americans acted with all the outrage at what is just regular behind-the-scenes politics is dumbfounding to me. It's like they've always lived in a fairy world. And those who unironically say "AH, see the democrats are EVIL, no way republicans (in bed with the military-industrial complex since time immemorial) or Trump (a ruthless entrepeneur who chewed and clawed his way to the top) ever did anything of the sort!" amaze me the most.

>regular political slime

maybe if you are in venezuela

short list of literal crimes committed by hillary and friends:

conspiracy to commit voter fraud on a large scale
illegal collusion in extreme
conspiracy to destroy evidence relating to federal investigations
terrorism (encouraging political violence is literally terrorism lul)
soliciting illegal donations from highly questionable sources
influence peddling
perjury (questionable, but possible)
likely lied to the FBI (which is also a crime lul)

pick two of these things and you start approaching "deserves a firing squad" territory. god help you if any of this shit is "normal" where you live m8

note that this is just ILLEGAL things. the downright evil shit she's done or sanctioned is probably a hundred pages.

Grazyn has got a point. Compared to most American politicians, Hillary isn't really the devil she's put out to be. Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, and Martin O' Malley (He fucking "lost" a billion dollars that was supposed to be used to make Maryland more accessible for the disabled) have all done some pretty terrible shit. If I looked hard enough, I could probably find some terrible things 90% of congress has done. She's about as corrupt as every other politician. I'm not saying this should be shrugged off, I'm saying we shouldn't be pointing all fingers at one single example while all the other politicians are pulling shit. Including the president we just elected.

We should be marching on the DNC until we weed all of the corruption out for the next election, so they can put forward a good candidate. We should be lobbying in the Capital, the fair way, for issues we believe in, instead of skirting the law and giving them valuables. We should be voting in new congressmen and senators instead of voting in the same corrupt slimeballs because you're too afraid to vote in someone new and different.

[XSI]

One big reason why people are focusing on Hillary is because she doesn't even care about hiding it

And as such, the people would love for her to be made an example of

[onleavedontatme]

she doesn't even care about hiding itf

Were you following the same election I was? The bulk the scandals on her side were fallout from that hidden email server, lying about the server, the subsequent deletion of emails on the server and so on.

The Clintons are notorious about hiding things and using weaselly language to dodge forever ("It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is'") to the point that the cover up often turns into a bigger scandal than what they were hiding in the first place.

[ShadowDimentio]

The Clintons are a family of politicians and lawyers, there's a reason Bill was called Slick Willie-- he'd constantly change what he thought to make himself look good.

[Super Aggro Crag]

They call him slick Willie because his dick is always lubed and ready.

[ShadowDimentio]

That was just a perfect bit of irony, like a group involved in Watergate being named CREEP (Committee for the Reelection ? ? President).

[MrAlphonzo]

One big reason why people are focusing on Hillary is because she doesn't even care about hiding it

And as such, the people would love for her to be made an example of

The same can be said for Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Martin O'Malley etc. They are so blatantly crooked its not even funny. I'm not seeing any crazy pizzagate conspiracy about those chucklefucks. I'm starting to think that Hillary got a lot more hate than the average corrupt politician, not because of her behind closed door deals, but because the alt-left was trying to brute force her presidency during the entire election. All that namecalling, hipster screeching and other SJW bullshit followed her campaign wherever it went. If your supporters act like that, that is what people will assume you represent. It makes sense. Just the sound of it, a corrupt alt-left candidate is going to get a lot more hate than the average corrupt presidential candidate.

Its like being endorsed by the KKK or a bunch of Neo-Nazis.


EDIT: Now that I think about it, though, Trump was endorsed by the KKK. And no, Hillary being endorsed by a single grand dragon does not count.

One Grand Dragon =/= The Official Newspaper

I guess there's just something about right-wing propo that gets to people easily.

[ShadowDimentio]

I'm starting to think that Hillary got a lot more hate than the average corrupt politician, not because of her behind closed door deals, or the fact that she is a woman, but because the alt-left was trying to brute force her presidency during the entire election.

Hillary didn't get any hate for being a woman, the liberals were eating her up (innuendo intended) just for being a woman.

[MrAlphonzo]

I'm starting to think that Hillary got a lot more hate than the average corrupt politician, not because of her behind closed door deals, or the fact that she is a woman, but because the alt-left was trying to brute force her presidency during the entire election.

Hillary didn't get any hate for being a woman

Thats what I said m8.
Shoulda said nor instead of or I guess

[XSI]

she doesn't even care about hiding it

Were you following the same election I was? The bulk the scandals on her side were fallout from that hidden email server, lying about the server, the subsequent deletion of emails on the server and so on.

The Clintons are notorious about hiding things and using weaselly language to dodge forever ("It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is'") to the point that the cover up often turns into a bigger scandal than what they were hiding in the first place.

That is exactly it.
That way they hide it from the law and through technicalities, but to anyone paying attention it will be seen as them not actually hiding the acts, and rather just wording it in a way that it is technically not illegal so they get off.
That is exactly why people LOVE the idea of them getting slammed and put in jail, because it's someone playing the system through semantics, a classic 'bad guy' who deserves punishment but avoids it, and people love seeing the 'bad guy' get what's coming.

And that is also why Hillary was the target above all the republicans. The republicans are bad at it too, but their acts aren't as widely known, and their corruption tends to be blamed on the corporations bribing them(Oh, sorry, 'gifting' them loads of cash, since 'money is free speech' to them). Which in turn means that there's less people caring about the individual. The system is fucked, but with Hillary there is clearly an individual doing things that are clearly bad, while with republicans it tends to be more along the lines of 'big business' doing grey area stuff that they very likely just shouldn't be allowed to.

[Luke Cox]

But I thought the Russians made her do it!

[Screemonster]

No no no, you've got it wrong, it was ALL the russians hacking!

The russians hacked all the boundaries to gerrymander the congressional districts
Vladimir Putin personally went back in time to 1787 and set up the the electoral college
Nikita Khrushchev hacked the minds of the baby boomers to turn them into sleeper agents to elect a red president only he got it wrong and they elected an orange one instead

[Mervill]

This is the year of the linux desktop

Code: Select all

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LOADING...

[Luke Cox]

It was 1996, when XFCE came out

[ShadowDimentio]

Trigger warning: Blood

[oranges]

>americans actually defending the DNC

THE FUCK? That party is thoroughly corrupt - had they not been so shit perhaps the russians wouldn't have been able to influence your election so easily.

[DemonFiren]

That party is thoroughly corrupt

>implying there is any party that isn't

[Drynwyn]

>americans actually defending the DNC

THE FUCK? That party is thoroughly corrupt - had they not been so shit perhaps the russians wouldn't have been able to influence your election so easily.

Well, there's only two political parties worth paying attention to in the U.S. Assuming you dislike right wing policies, your mental options at the moment appear to be either defend the DNC or say that the republicans should make all decisions.

[ShadowDimentio]

No amount of defending the DNC will change the fact that they've been completely and utterly stumped. They put it all on Hillary and she completely lost, and now they're bankrupt.

I predict one of three things will happen. The Democrats will die, the Democrats will go through a huge metamorphosis and come out as something new, or the Democrats will stay exactly the same and keep losing.

[ShadowDimentio]

News: Four black guys in Chicago kidnapped and tortured an autistic white dude live on Facebook. They've all been arrested and the story is still developing but supposedly they did it because he voted for Trump. There's a video out somewhere but Facebook keeps removing it, and with good reason, supposedly they sliced his forehead open and you could see the skull.

Might possibly be fake but holy shit 2017 is already heating up.

[Saegrimr]

Not fake, unfortunately.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/01/04/ ... -streamed/

I can't even link the video (about 30 minutes long) because youtube has been taking it all down and it's mysteriously not even in my watch history anymore.

[TheColdTurtle]

Chicago is a bad place to live in, and in other news liveleak is still popular for videos youtube shuts down due to gore

[Malkevin]

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=154_1483565133

[D&B]

It's just kids being kids

.T Chicago PD

[Super Aggro Crag]

I bet some paper bag colored college student is gonna watch that video and then make a presentation for their liberal arts degree that white males are the real danger to people cuz a senior citizen looked at her weird in a store.

[DemonFiren]

I bet some paper bag colored college student is gonna watch that video and then make a presentation for their liberal arts degree that white males are the real danger to people cuz a senior citizen looked at her weird in a store.

[ShadowDimentio]

We need more bags of color!

[DemonFiren]

We need more bags of color!

Finally, something we can agree on.

[Malkevin]

I once got conned into donating to the NSPCC, then I heard the first four months you're basically paying the chugger's fee, so I canceled the direct debit and ignored their renewal letters, fuckers.

[Cik]

there's a bunch of people in congress at the moment trying to repeal the first amendment again because it might prevent russians from hacking america or something lol

[ShadowDimentio]

there's a bunch of people in congress at the moment trying to repeal the first amendment again because it might prevent russians from hacking america or something lol

Don't get nervous. It's probably just the Democrats throwing yet another hissy fit before the Trump Train arrives in 15 or so days. It really doesn't matter what they try doing, Trump can upright any of the tables they potentially flip once he gets in.

[Drynwyn]

there's a bunch of people in congress at the moment trying to repeal the first amendment again because it might prevent russians from hacking america or something lol

Don't get nervous. It's probably just the Democrats throwing yet another hissy fit before the Trump Train arrives in 15 or so days. It really doesn't matter what they try doing, Trump can upright any of the tables they potentially flip once he gets in.

It's not the democrats.


Additionally, trump is still as odds with republican leadership on a number of issues (most notably social security, Medicare, and LBGTQALMNOGOLDFISH+ issues), which could limit his powers significantly.

[Mervill]

I'm looking forward to the inauguration, since it will probably be a garbage fire in it's own right. IIRC the Trump team is having trouble finding people who want to preform. Plus there's still time for prominent politicians to boycott it, I'd mention that boycotting the inauguration would be unprecedented but this entire election is unprecedented so

A small part of me still hopes Tump is building up to a Charlie Chaplin / The Great Dictator speech, but it seems more likely we'll be dealing with the reality of President Trump in a few short weeks

[XSI]

Nah, Trump team has no issue finding people to perform

But they don't want Mary-Jane-Junior and Billy-Bob's banjo duet for the inauguration either. It's hard to find quality, and there's social pressure on performers to deny him because EVIL RACIST BIGOT

[ShadowDimentio]

If I were an entertainer I'd be extremely reluctant on accepting an invitation to perform for Trump's inauguration because anybody that does risks being unpersoned by hardcore democrats. It could easily execute your career.

[MrAlphonzo]

Don't get nervous. It's probably just the Democrats throwing yet another hissy fit before the Trump Train crashes in 15 or so days.

Fixed.

Alternatively

Don't get nervous. It's probably just the Democrats throwing yet another hissy fit before the Trump Train crashes the stock market in two or so years.

Speaking of stock market, why does seemingly nobody give a shit that Trump deregulated the market hardcore and created another bubble before he began his presidency?

[Super Aggro Crag]

Same reason no one cares when your messiah Obama gave them billions of taxpayer money to bail them out of their own incompetence alphonzo

You can only take so much hypocrisy from the democRATS before you stop caring what the republiCUNTS do. In 4-8 years enjoy your smug sense of satisfaction when you are vindicated when another simpering plutocratic cocknose gets in office and proceeds to do the exact same thing as the last 15 presidents. Put a bullet in your head.

[MrAlphonzo]

Friendly reminder that Teddy Roosevelt was in fact a person and is historical proof that good politicians exist. Quit your cynical bullshit. Cynical bullshit is why we're in this mess in the first place.

[ShadowDimentio]

Teddy was also a republican and successfully achieved what democrats claim to do and fail to: Helping poor people.

[MrAlphonzo]

Teddy was also a republican and successfully achieved what democrats claim to do and fail to: Helping poor people.

FDR also existed, and ran as a democrat, and pulled us out of the Great Depression. Shave off some of that edge, son.

[XSI]

Trump does not actually have any official power yet

But he did bring back some jobs through negotiations already, though that was mostly just making it so that those jobs didn't end up leaving in the first place. Clearly he can already do things even without everything being official

Stock markets will always go up and down, that's just how they work. It is impossible for them to go up all the time, and policy on them is more just about hoping that you've left office by the time the whole thing collapses again.