aranclanos - IRC Ban

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:56 am #144660

IRC name: J_Madison
Banning operator: Aranclanos
Ban type (What are you banned from?): IRC
Ban reason and length: asdassdasd / permanent
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 03/01/16
Your side of the story:
Normal coderbus activity.
Aranclanos OPs himself.
Bans my name and IP.
Kicks for reason above.
Says nothing else.
Why you think you should be unbanned:
No ban reason, seperation of coderbus and server, I didn't actually break IRC rules.

Remie Richards · Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:15 am

Is this a new one or the one from the other day (I know it says the 3rd, but still)?

The one from the other day (that I lifted) was Aran using your permaban as an excuse.
If it's a new one... Idk.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:29 am #144665

Remie Richards wrote:Is this a new one or the one from the other day (I know it says the 3rd, but still)?

The one from the other day (that I lifted) was Aran using your permaban as an excuse.
If it's a new one... Idk.

It's a new one that he applied last night.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:43 am #144906

bump still banned. no response.

Tsaricide · Post by **Tsaricide** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:45 pm #144951

Yeah he banned me too so I'll just piggyback off this thread.

Remie Richards · Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:39 pm

Tsaricide wrote:Yeah he banned me too so I'll just piggyback off this thread.

Huh, Banned you 20 minutes after he banned J, weird.

Remie Richards · Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:40 pm

Also I'd lift these, but knowing aran he'd just reapply them again, so he needs to come here and explain himself so they can be lifted proper.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:58 pm #144964

From what I got, Aran kept IRC silence after banning me.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:06 am #145006

Just asked him. He's refusing to remove the bans saying "I don't wanna" and "no go away".

Can I get it removed and if necessary de-op him. This is ridiculous. He's stalling the bans and hasn't provided a reason at all.

TechnoAlchemist · Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:12 am

Isn't Aran a maintainer?

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:13 am #145008

TechnoAlchemist wrote:Isn't Aran a maintainer?

IRC operator. Shouldn't even be banning ingame either.

Anyway, looks like it's a personal vendetta against both of us Tsar.

TechnoAlchemist · Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:19 am

I think we took Arans admin status because of him pulling dumb bullshit.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:20 am #145010

Are you aware that he is the current owner/founder of coderbus. He owns the IRC channel

TechnoAlchemist · Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:23 am

NikNakFlak wrote:Are you aware that he is the current owner/founder of coderbus. He owns the IRC channel

Oy vey

Time to make a new IRC channel

tedward1337 · Post by **tedward1337** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:27 am #145013

TechnoAlchemist wrote:
NikNakFlak wrote:Are you aware that he is the current owner/founder of coderbus. He owns the IRC channel
Oy vey

Time to make a new IRC channel

Tip top kek

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:30 am #145014

NikNakFlak wrote:Are you aware that he is the current owner/founder of coderbus. He owns the IRC channel

Thought that was Cheridan.

tkdrg · Post by **tkdrg** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:39 am #145016

Cheridan is the Headcoder and github Owner, but the owner of the IRC channel is Aranclanos right now.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:44 am #145017

tkdrg wrote:Cheridan is the Headcoder and github Owner, but the owner of the IRC channel is Aranclanos right now.

Plot thickens. Looks like I gotta get VPN and take care of it.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:56 am #145023

Take it from me, if you want to get unbanned from #coderbus you should change whatever it is you're doing that upsets the people that frequent it because there's no democracy for the IRC channel and I really doubt MSO/cheridan are going to take action over what Aran does administratively, this is the completely wrong place to complain about this.

TechnoAlchemist · Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:00 am

Someone who is more stable should probably make a new code IRC

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:02 am #145025

Separation between church and state server and code is absolute

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:08 am #145027

paprika wrote:Take it from me, if you want to get unbanned from #coderbus you should change whatever it is you're doing that upsets the people that frequent it because there's no democracy for the IRC channel and I really doubt MSO/cheridan are going to take action over what Aran does administratively, this is the completely wrong place to complain about this.

It's personal and private regarding what I earn, how I earn and what I do with it.

I get plenty, but it wasn't plenty enough that I'd help Aran with four figures he needed.

TechnoAlchemist · Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:14 am

What's this hot drama did Aran ask for thousands of dollars?

peoplearestrange · Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:55 am

I'm not sure theres really anything we can do about this and this thread is quickly becoming #ss13drama

I'm tempted to resolve, but I kinda feel like that be another kick down you don't deserve without asking.
How can we move forward on this?

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:42 pm #145126

He owns the channel.
It's outta our hands.
Not much I or anyone can do without going into the grey area of things.

peoplearestrange · Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:43 pm

I'm sorry, Im really not sure what to say.

You can still join #tgstation13 and #supportbus right?

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:48 pm #145154

J_Madison wrote:He owns the channel.
It's outta our hands.
Not much I or anyone can do without going into the grey area of things.

if youre implying that youre going to dox him then i mean we already know pretty much everything about aran...

hes a goddamn manchild from argentina.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:57 pm #145155

ColonicAcid wrote:
J_Madison wrote:He owns the channel.
It's outta our hands.
Not much I or anyone can do without going into the grey area of things.
if youre implying that youre going to dox him then i mean we already know pretty much everything about aran...

hes a goddamn manchild from argentina.

Nah, I was referring to something else (I.e Tsar banning him from the server).
Considering what happened when I happened upon dox, I'm going to sit this one out and keep an eye on it.

It's no biggie. Keep the thread open please, PAS, since it's not solved.

And yeah I can still join those channels, and the right person can always find me in the right place.

onleavedontatme · Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:26 pm

>ban war vs #coderbus

Ask erro how that worked out.

Lumbermancer · Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:34 pm

Kor wrote:Ask erro how that worked out.

He became a happy and accomplished indie game dev.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:08 pm #145176

Lumbermancer wrote:
Kor wrote:Ask erro how that worked out.
He became a happy and accomplished indie game dev.

He's no longer getting grey hairs from a drama filled space man game.

I think he won the grand prize.

Tsaricide · Post by **Tsaricide** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:55 pm #145180

Well I would ban him but he would never notice because he actually never signs in.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:10 pm #145181

i mean what could possibly go wrong. you're an admin, errorage was an owner. there's a good 90-100% less responsibility

Tsaricide · Post by **Tsaricide** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:27 pm #145188

I think argentina has a better chance of taking back the falkland islands than this situation has turning out good.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:37 am #145232

I still have no clue why this thread exists. It's not a requirement to be in #coderbus to code, nor does it in any way impede your ability to code if you're not in the channel (iirc Madison doesn't code for /tg/ anyway so??)

This is MSO's forum, he decides what this ban appeal section is for; but I really don't think it should be for irc/code bans since those things are administrated by a smaller group of people who might not even read the forums (see: aranclanos, any coder ever)

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:45 am #145234

paprika wrote:I still have no clue why this thread exists. It's not a requirement to be in #coderbus to code, nor does it in any way impede your ability to code if you're not in the channel (iirc Madison doesn't code for /tg/ anyway so

Unfortunately I do, under a different name, wouldn't be hard to figure whom.

And it kind of does, especially when I need a quick fix on some badly hacked code, or second opinions on something before I jam it right in.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:46 am #145235

Yum, sound the drama sirens then

TheNightingale · Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:49 am

If it's not an official /tg/station ban, then what's stopping you from just evading it?

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:04 am #145239

TheNightingale wrote:If it's not an official /tg/station ban, then what's stopping you from just evading it?

rizon doesn't fuck around with IRC evasions

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:15 am #145242

I don't like the idea of evading.
Evading the IRC ban is less about how, but more about when. Getting past it is no issue for me.

If you're implying that it isn't covered by tg then all bets are off I guess.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:09 pm #145308

I have set up #devbus to solve this issue.

duncathan · Post by **duncathan** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:17 pm #145311

Just for the record, Tsar's ban was completely legitimate; I was there when it happened and I support it

Tsaricide · Post by **Tsaricide** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:46 pm #145313

duncathan wrote:Just for the record, Tsar's ban was completely legitimate; I was there when it happened and I support it

Yeah it was