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Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:03 pm
by bandit

Bottom post of the previous page:

DemonFiren wrote:asgore was the only good part tbh
but asgore makes almost anything good
I would have expected you to like alphys

Re: Undertale 2

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:05 pm
by Shadowflame909
PKPenguin321 wrote:i heard it interacts with your save file from the first game but i fucked with my save file after i beat the first game for fun so idk what'll happen
It checks your undertale savefile to see if you did a genocide run. Literal foreshadowing.

On the best note though.

CHAOS,CHAOS. I CAN DO ANYTHING.

Don't click this link if you don't like rapidly moving flashing jesters. Or Chaos.
https://chaoschaosicandoanything.corgiorgy.com/

edit: Alphys literally lives in an alley and is homeless. Also based on that ending. You can infer which ending is canon. At least in this timeline?

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:10 pm
by bandit
I meant because alphys is a lizard and it's demonfiren

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:13 pm
by DemonFiren
bandit wrote:I meant because alphys is a lizard and it's demonfiren
I do like Alphys, but she wasn't the kind of fucked-up that I usually go for.
That's Asgore. I just prefer his personality and trident.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:21 pm
by UltimateGamer21
Holy shit I had forgotten how awful a character Alphys is.

Look, she's a horrible awful person that does Mengele style experiments in living beings but we all forgive her at the end because she's based on a really terrible stereotype of weeaboos. Isn't that just so quirky and lovable.

WHY couldn't you ice that stupid bitch

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:23 pm
by DemonFiren
unlike mengele she was trying to save those guys, though
classic case of noble intentions gone horribly wrong

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:23 pm
by UltimateGamer21
Starting to like this game less and less as I realise it's become an extension of the cultural phenomenon that surrounded Undertale but it the game itself doesn't redeem itself as a standalone product the way UT did.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:55 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Alphys and undyne are literally just cheap ripoffs of hedy algebra and miku frost and toby fox owes me and desucake a million billion yen

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:57 am
by bandit
I "befriended" miku frost last night

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:01 am
by DemonFiren
UltimateGamer21 wrote:Starting to like this game less and less as I realise it's become an extension of the cultural phenomenon that surrounded Undertale but it the game itself doesn't redeem itself as a standalone product the way UT did.
possibly because it's a fucking demo

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:03 am
by UltimateGamer21
DemonFiren wrote:
UltimateGamer21 wrote:Starting to like this game less and less as I realise it's become an extension of the cultural phenomenon that surrounded Undertale but it the game itself doesn't redeem itself as a standalone product the way UT did.
possibly because it's a fucking demo
A demo I'm gonna be hearing about for like a year as the unwashed masses crawl out to dole out praise for the thing that's popular to let everyone else know they're in on it too.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:12 am
by DemonFiren
on one hand I get it
on the other hand, ow, the elitism

what's gonna piss me off is all the out-of-character fetish porn with everyone's sparkledogs

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:06 am
by bandit
>demonfiren
>complaining about fetish porn

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:09 am
by PKPenguin321
went back and got to the SeCrEt boss that literally everybody is talking about that i missed
first try i lost, then i got healing items and beat it second try
pretty fun and was worth the challenge, hope there are more fights like that in the real game

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:17 am
by DemonFiren
bandit wrote:>demonfiren
>complaining about fetish porn
Listen up, I don't want any pictures of Asgore voring someone's black-and-red femboi fox.
Or shitting his pants with a lionsona's assistance.

Both things I've seen. Both things I'd prefer to unsee if possible.

PKPenguin321 wrote:went back and got to the SeCrEt boss that literally everybody is talking about that i missed
first try i lost, then i got healing items and beat it second try
pretty fun and was worth the challenge, hope there are more fights like that in the real game
Is that the one you have to collect the three key pieces for? I only managed to get piece C.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:25 am
by Shadowflame909
PKPenguin321 wrote:went back and got to the SeCrEt boss that literally everybody is talking about that i missed
first try i lost, then i got healing items and beat it second try
pretty fun and was worth the challenge, hope there are more fights like that in the real game
He says that his fight is just the tip of the iceberg. So oh no

But at least he can do anything

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:48 am
by PKPenguin321
DemonFiren wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:went back and got to the SeCrEt boss that literally everybody is talking about that i missed
first try i lost, then i got healing items and beat it second try
pretty fun and was worth the challenge, hope there are more fights like that in the real game
Is that the one you have to collect the three key pieces for? I only managed to get piece C.
yeah, i just followed a guide to reach the guy. i didnt find a single thing related to him in my first playthrough (and i thought i was being thorough) so i didnt care enough to look for it myself the second time around

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:59 am
by Super Aggro Crag
DemonFiren wrote:
bandit wrote:>demonfiren
>complaining about fetish porn
Listen up, I don't want any pictures of Asgore voring someone's black-and-red femboi fox.
Or shitting his pants with a lionsona's assistance.

Both things I've seen. Both things I'd prefer to unsee if possible.

PKPenguin321 wrote:went back and got to the SeCrEt boss that literally everybody is talking about that i missed
first try i lost, then i got healing items and beat it second try
pretty fun and was worth the challenge, hope there are more fights like that in the real game
Is that the one you have to collect the three key pieces for? I only managed to get piece C.
Undertale has Samael the Butterdragon in it

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:02 am
by bandit
>not getting piece B

did you seriously not notice a chest that was inaccessible WONDER WHAT COULD BE IN IT

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:49 am
by ShadowDimentio
I saw the chest for piece B and the place where piece A was but kinda forgot about them both and never saw the secret boss

Regrettable, since jesters are cool

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:56 am
by lntigracy
If you play on fullscreen the game runs at 60 fps, making his attacks harder to dodge.

Non-fullscreen it runs at 30 fps.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:20 am
by Desucake
bandit wrote:I "befriended" miku frost last night
Pfft, sure, right.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:29 am
by DrPillzRedux
I befriend Miku Frost every night!

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:34 am
by DemonFiren
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:
bandit wrote:>demonfiren
>complaining about fetish porn
Listen up, I don't want any pictures of Asgore voring someone's black-and-red femboi fox.
Or shitting his pants with a lionsona's assistance.

Both things I've seen. Both things I'd prefer to unsee if possible.

PKPenguin321 wrote:went back and got to the SeCrEt boss that literally everybody is talking about that i missed
first try i lost, then i got healing items and beat it second try
pretty fun and was worth the challenge, hope there are more fights like that in the real game
Is that the one you have to collect the three key pieces for? I only managed to get piece C.
Undertale has Samael the Butterdragon in it
yeah, but this is one you actually have to try really fucking hard to reach and IIRC doesn't even count against your pacifist counter if you kill it
so it's just toby going "well, fine, but let's pretend this never happened" which is ok

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:35 am
by Arianya
Jevil's theme is great.

I got key piece a just by bruteforcing it before I'd ever seen card castle lmao

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:52 pm
by bandit
key piece B is easy to find if you got to temmie village in undertale it's the exact same thing

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:28 pm
by obscolene
bandit wrote:key piece B is easy to find if you got to temmie village in undertale it's the exact same thing
i did 3 playthroughs of undertale and never got to temmie village but i got key piece B wtf

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:38 pm
by FantasticFwoosh
I finished this game yesterday with non-violence, the ending prior the ending was pretty nice but overall it wasn't very challenging if you deliberately mill rabbits for cash to buy incidental health items despite them doing avoidable silly amounts of damage, there weren't any enemy types that didn't have a presented weakness like you would expect for the first arc of the game. *spoiler for anybody clicking to the end of the thread, go to the beginning in future*

Conceptually i took away that the demo atleast is a exercise in Fate. I didn't do the secret boss because i didn't have to and weren't nessecarily aware of their existance and i glad i didn't looking back because it looks like a pain in the ass for nothing, i just went around and gleamed information that ultimately other than obviously watching as a third party who never played the original wasn't quite so conspiratorially put together like a game-theory video.
Spoiler:
With the context of the last game, nothing happened with many of the characters personally but many things still remain the same, the skeleton brothers being the the prescedented self aware characters may know but even within the course of the game its delayed until 'tommorow', obviously goat-parent's marriage is still broken down because quinsentially they are the same characters but the original impact of the first game interpersonally never happened.

Its literally just Beserk but cutey pop culture anime, the only acting forces are unintroduced characters of the 'God Hand' esque parallel charracters like Gastor who has a presence in the game and actively subvert it in such a way that you can never lose when your party 'dies' (or anybody does), proceeding onto the fixated end point. At some point by the introduction of chapters & characters perhaps even breaking the arc and jumping to chapter 5 or however it'd like to approach it, i feel the full edition of the game if it comes will ultimately try to break free of those constraints to subvert fate as a exercise to show the player.

The game may very well begin or end with you seeking out to restore things to the original preclude of the first game, which means sparking the original war and deliberately failing/sabotaging your conveniently handed heroic quest to serve as a prequel where you basically just cook the timeline with napalm
Why do i spend time looking around, listening, ingesting and then writing around this crap?

TL;DR : " HEY HEY LOOK AT ME MORTY I TURNED MYSELF INTO A CHINESE TWEEN, FRISKL RIIIIICK"

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:16 am
by Anonmare
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Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:23 am
by Shadowflame909
Anonmare wrote:Image
He has never lied

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:32 pm
by Ricotez
If Toby is getting rid of the pacifist/genocide separation, then incorporate both ACT and FIGHT into combat, and don't make one very specifically the peaceful solution and the other one very specifically the aggressive solution. Save ACT for special context-sensitive actions and give you more options when you FIGHT.

After the final fight, Susie and Ralsie have a talk about how they both realize now sometimes it's necessary to ACT and sometimes you have no choice to FIGHT... Except that even in that final battle, you are perfectly fine if you use only ACT or only FIGHT. In the full version of the game, that would be the perfect point to hammer it home to pacifist players that in this game sometimes you cannot win an encounter without fighting back, and vice versa for genocidal players. Even in the pacifist route in Undertale you are forced to fight Asgore before you can unlock the true ending.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:17 am
by FantasticFwoosh
Details relating to the above post above.
Spoiler:
the boss fight at the end of the dark area is a attrition fight that to get the peaceful resolution you just have to keep going constantly buffing healing and lightly poking the enemy, however they cop out of a real genocide kill by having the sequence after cast a sleeping spell instead if you take the purely violent route.

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:12 pm
by Ricotez
Spoiler:
hm I thought it was just impossible to defeat him before he runs out of dialogue and the cutscene after plays, exactly like in the pacifist approach

I haven't seen the genocide version of the fight myself but someone who thought they had no choice but to fight told me that's how it goes, maybe I misunderstood them

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:21 pm
by PKPenguin321
Ricotez wrote:
Spoiler:
hm I thought it was just impossible to defeat him before he runs out of dialogue and the cutscene after plays, exactly like in the pacifist approach

I haven't seen the genocide version of the fight myself but someone who thought they had no choice but to fight told me that's how it goes, maybe I misunderstood them
"genocide" was what i did, you just attack every turn and eventually he gives up and the fight ends in i think pretty much the same way

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:48 pm
by Shadowflame909
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Ricotez wrote:
Spoiler:
hm I thought it was just impossible to defeat him before he runs out of dialogue and the cutscene after plays, exactly like in the pacifist approach

I haven't seen the genocide version of the fight myself but someone who thought they had no choice but to fight told me that's how it goes, maybe I misunderstood them
"genocide" was what i did, you just attack every turn and eventually he gives up and the fight ends in i think pretty much the same way
Spoiler:
There are two endings though. Or at least two major differences! Like, Lancer only becomes king in one of them

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:50 pm
by Anonmare
Help me I've started a fluffy boy folder

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:09 am
by DemonFiren
Shadowflame909 wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Ricotez wrote:
Spoiler:
hm I thought it was just impossible to defeat him before he runs out of dialogue and the cutscene after plays, exactly like in the pacifist approach

I haven't seen the genocide version of the fight myself but someone who thought they had no choice but to fight told me that's how it goes, maybe I misunderstood them
"genocide" was what i did, you just attack every turn and eventually he gives up and the fight ends in i think pretty much the same way
Spoiler:
There are two endings though. Or at least two major differences! Like, Lancer only becomes king in one of them
Spoiler:
I beat the shit outta the King but was pacifist in the rest of the game, Lancer still takes over because Ralsei is an idiot and heals the King.

Was that supposed to be pacifist?

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:17 am
by Shadowflame909
DemonFiren wrote:
Shadowflame909 wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Ricotez wrote:
Spoiler:
hm I thought it was just impossible to defeat him before he runs out of dialogue and the cutscene after plays, exactly like in the pacifist approach

I haven't seen the genocide version of the fight myself but someone who thought they had no choice but to fight told me that's how it goes, maybe I misunderstood them
"genocide" was what i did, you just attack every turn and eventually he gives up and the fight ends in i think pretty much the same way
Spoiler:
There are two endings though. Or at least two major differences! Like, Lancer only becomes king in one of them
Spoiler:
I beat the shit outta the King but was pacifist in the rest of the game, Lancer still takes over because Ralsei is an idiot and heals the King.

Was that supposed to be pacifist?
yes

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:35 pm
by confused rock
fat guy still falls over in agony if you don't hit him at all

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:39 pm
by FantasticFwoosh
Spoiler:
rumor goes that if you defeat jevil on the second attempt you can actually kill the end-boss for real using the Jevil scythe

Re: Undertale 2 Demo

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:48 am
by Deitus
this got a smile out of me so im just gonna leave it here
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