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I ran skub events before they were codified. And I nearly crashed the server because of it.

I know but cans account for like 2% of all trash in-game

Why stop at cans? Why not all kinds of trash? I know it isn't particularly in-line with the joke, but I think janitors and assistants being able to make a quick buck by dumping trash bags full of garbage into the Compact-o-Tron outside of cargo sounds funny. It also very mildly lets cargo recoup the...

I think there should be a proc that instantly inflicts the brain damage smite on anyone who uses it (and it isn't followed by '-ant' at the end of the word). That'll filter them out and its funnier.

I think this threads best closed, because the better discussion to be had has to do with 'reasonable containment' and a better definition for that. Also, a reminder that we have Roleplay Rule 10, repetitive gimmicks are not something people should be doing over and over, even as unrestricted antagon...

I've done crusher BDM and Hiero using a cheese strat. I've not done it in a while so I don't know if it still works, but BDM basically lets you easily fight hiero due to that damage reduction so long as you timed it right. Otherwise I've only done those two with legit methods and upgrades (including...

I just think we forgot to update the list tbh.

I mean, if you have a particular worried about people doing that, Jacq, you're in a much better position to resolve that than empty posting in a policy thread. We already have rules for overusing gimmicks to the point of lameness, that's not ground we need to retread.

I regret to inform you blacklist about this, but that sounds funny as fuck.

Crazy since Manuel's #1 hero Jeff "Gaming" Gaiman once gibbed like all of sec as a traitor chef and turned them into burgers. To my knowledge he was not banned for it. I wonder what extra context the ban appeal will provide as to why this was against the rules. The two conditionals there ...

I wasn't like actually going to take this thread seriously because I'm getting very tired of us continuing this cycle of "should (antag) get a free pass because security kills them a lot" but I guess I should explain what the actual issue is here. Heretics are difficult but not impossible...

Heretics seem to be just outright executed the moment they're caught. I'm seeing many excuses as to why line up one after the other; you can't take away the funny hand, you can't contain some of their types (AKA heretics who take rust or lock), and they're an existential threat to the round by still...

I remember when we had cryodarts and you could make better frag-12 using them. You can kinda do that with darts but you'll need to land both shots.

I mean, rubbershot does a pretty good job of stamcritting people in two point blank, and you will be point-blanking with a sawn-off.

We've received a reply. Sadly, while you' not had any notably bad behaviour elsewhere, you also don't have enough hours for me to be confident in lifting the ban. I'll have to see those hours put in somewhere that is actually visible for me or in a place we can verify to be confident about your comm...

I could look into verifying that and if they let us know you've been playing fairly consistently and haven't been antagrolling, I can also accept that as reason enough to unban you here. Was it on this same account, or were you using an alternative account, and if so what is that account?

Space dragons definitely aren't...terribly great unless things are already super fucked or the dragon got fantastic locations for its portal. And the majority of the time that I've seen it win are when the crew have already called the shuttle and it spawned right before it arrives so nobody can reca...

Hey, I'll be taking this appeal on behalf of Scriptis in his absence. For a lot of permanent bans, we typically employ a rule of thumb of time spent not playing usually means time spent doing hopefully something more productive. We've some methods for determining that if people disappear off to othe...

...Timonk, I've already buffed it three times in the last year.

Looking at the logs a bit, it looks like they cremated an assistant (Honda Mothra, an assistant and seemingly one of the moths on the bridge/captain's office), the paramedic Riley Cavalet and the borg. It looks like they opened fire on the paramedic inside the chap's office, and cremated them becaus...

Testmerging is broken right now, as we've come to discover while trying to testmerge this PR. There is a more involved method but it didn't work. It might be a bit.

smashed screens aplenty I'm a fucking stupid bitch that sleeps with her phone next to her in bed and I toss a lot in my sleep so it goes sliding onto the floor.

Please provide feedback from any experiences you have had with this PR here. Either make it known in the comments of the PR, or here if you are going to be particularly verbose.

The round before the big site crash we had was fun, there was a shoddy subversion law, I had a gimmick based on it, but then oops server box out. You may not have seen it, but I pixel shifted a fedora onto your head that round Last night on Terry there were revs, and a HEADREV was chasing down the ...

I don't particularly care about overgearing specifically for the captain in particular, because we have rules about unprompted excessive preparedness for literally all roles, security included. But I don't feel like captain's shouldn't be allowed to equip themselves with alternative equipment if the...

In truth, Ops kinda sucks and we should do Goon Ops instead. Win win. From what I can tell, the ops can always arm the nuke, but they have to arm it in one of two locations? And the disk reduces the timer? And also, they have to defend for 10 minutes and not just arm and ditch? This sounds a bit li...

WineAllWine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:04 am I agree entirely, and this is a very well put argument.

And it's why in my (shit)code I made it a config value. I suspect the minimum_war_value tp be higher on Terry

Sorry I added a hasty addition to that post, I'm sorry!

I highlighted elsewhere about the statistics for ops up to date to the tail end of 2023, as provided by Mothblocks on the best website on the net . I think it is relevant to frame why this PR has happened using it. Looking at the graph, we can see that Sybil and Manuel both have relatively inconsist...

It's for reasons like this I am willing to remove the note so long as you understand the contents of it. "If you say uncle I'll remove the note" Either the note is right or wrong (it’s wrong btw). An admin should never essentially say “Admit that I’m right and I’ll remove the note.” I thi...

Bmonathan is really digging their heels in on this one holy moly Because they know they're right. If by 'I'm making shit up as I go while interpreting our existing ruleset in poor faith and doing a bit of historical revisionism on the side' is right, I'm glad to be wrong, regardless of the outcome ...

I literally just burrow holes through the walls instead of getting access. Nobody is going to give a shit about a bunch of secret passages in discreet locations.

Less than keen on seeing this note be maintained, because I really don't want to set up confusing precedents for captains, who otherwise should possess the greatest amount of autonomy amongst the crew. As well as noting players for not having fucking admin level metaknowledge, good grief.

conrad wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:46 am NINE PARAGRAPHS

WHY

That's not how paragraphs work. There is maybe three paragraphs total, I just broke them up in the formatting to be a bit easier to read and to separate out the points I'm addressing.

Dynamically updating objectives/introduced antagonists tend to make that not so reliable. But, generally speaking, yes. Late joining will protect you from most objective targeting. Back when I was on Cit, people used to do it as well. You'd have an almost dead pop roundstart then 30 people total aft...

I was the one to tell Clara to either appeal or leave some admin feedback if the situation didn't result in a note. From what little was told to me, it was not something I would even consider worth investigating; captain is effectively above security in its entirety in terms of hierarchy, and genera...

Hi, thank you for appealing. I want to also point out that this day ban also has come parceled with a permanent antagonist ban. After noticing you suicide in the round that this was placed and someone ahelping to point it out, I did some investigating into your previous rounds to see whether or not ...

Silicon players do not play in good faith enough to earn the lenience of tipping and not death in my experience. They will hold grudges and doorshock kill you later. It’s fine if you want to rigidly follow laws and try to stop me from arresting someone, and it can be just as okay to kill them in re...

I think any attempt at nonlethal compliance is better than a binary of lethal/nonlethal. I'm personally not concerned with practicality with regards to policy; there are caveats you have to abide by for fairness sake and for the sake of maintaining your protections, not to make your job as a securit...

Reflecting on it, and I feel I have mentioned it to bmon before, but there is a consistent style between a lot of the Pardise expats that for a time really defined the playerbase for a time. I can't say that there weren't some particularly wack players before their arrival, I've met them too, but I ...

Killing things is the path of least resistance in most every case. And I generally do not like encouraging players in sensitive roles like security officer taking that path so easily, because there is another player potentially trying to play in good faith as their role on the other end. If borgs wi...

You know, even after all this time, I hadn't considered hacking APCs via signaler. That's some baller tech I just learned.

I just think I've had my fill from back before Manuel for what Sybil offers. I was deeply entrenched in that culture for so long that I just don't have the taste for it anymore. It's not like I'm not being challenged at all by Manuelites, they're good sports for the most part and clever too. But I a...

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:12 pm Handling your own ticket is a bit cringe tho.

iain0 and iansdoor are different people, dorsi!

It's rather unfortunate. I had a similar concept at the time for a more artificery/occult antagonist that was more like, dubiously magically themed than outright magical. Think more SCP than Lovecraft, weird science and the unexplained/otherworldly. It would have operated similarly to spies do right...

I don't think I agree with literally any aspect of this argument, John, and I'm not even able to get past the first paragraph before asking myself what exactly brought about this discussion and what the end goal is. i don't even feel it worth engaging with the comparisons made because most of it see...

it's a courtesy to neuter sneezing, but these weren't even released, they were incomplete viruses that needed power to finish. That's...just to be expected to be in an unprepared state. Like, you can go into any virology room on any round with an active viro within the first 10 minutes, baton them, ...

Again, I wish that was the case. Speedrunning starlight+17 resist is 2 minutes with right rng and easy cure. That apc drains in 8 create culture, So I did the best I could! I mean, Meta Viro seems to have a frequent problem with power in particular, I've had it die on me almost every time I play vi...

The most relevant policy thread on the matter, given this is essentially a random search based on circumstantial evidence. Effectively this was just an investigation prompted by two people being in a department together, one of whom being someone who is expected to exist in that department. Which i...

Hello. As MagmaExploiter2 is no longer an admin , I'm going to be taking this appeal . Firstly , I want to clarify something specifically . This is a note from 2022 . It's extremely unlikely that such a note would have any relevance currently, and I have my doubts that this is frequent enough, or s...

It's the solution MSO advocates for whenever admins used to start moaning about antags murderboning and it not being against the rules but being super lame. Give them a nigh-impossible challenge to overcome AND make killed players happy at having the power fantasy reversed by playing big ERTs and D...

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