/tg/Station 13

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Reinforcing toxins because you think it's a dangerous job that can cause round-ending consequences is metagaming on par with reinforcing the armoury or making atmospherics plasma-flood-proof. You need tangible evidence from the current round that any of these places are going to be used nefariously...

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How does it handle greytiding and powergaming? Nothing really, but both those issues can be alleviated with a good security team. Having a good sec team to stop a player from tiding ain't going to work. They will do it again next round because it was fun. It ain't fun for players like me. With a mo...

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How does it handle greytiding and powergaming? Nothing really, but both those issues can be alleviated with a good security team. Having a good sec team to stop a player from tiding ain't going to work. They will do it again next round because it was fun. It ain't fun for players like me. With a mo...

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This thread makes me remember a recent round where there were only 2 engineers - an experienced veteran player and a newbie who'd never done it before. Veteran engineer immediately went to the bar to get drunk and chat with other players. Round ended with a minimum-time shuttle call after the super...

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GPeckman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:19 pm Couldn't you just disconnect the pipes leading to the armory? It won't make much of a difference unless it gets spaced.

If I recall, it took longer for the warden to get to a toolbox and back to brig than it did for assistant vampires to reach the armory

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This thread makes me remember a recent round where there were only 2 engineers - an experienced veteran player and a newbie who'd never done it before. Veteran engineer immediately went to the bar to get drunk and chat with other players. Round ended with a minimum-time shuttle call after the superm...

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I feel like context is missing but some random running into brig with a dangerous item like an exploding crate is absolutely grounds to baton/tase 'em for safety?

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i forgot to say, Welcome and have a great time!

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TG's rules are a lot more relaxed on letting people slack off/ mess about/ do petty crimes fnr than Bee. Antags are also a LOT less restricted in terms of causing destruction/killing people/being expected to only do objectives. One of our servers, Manuel, has additional roleplaying rules that make i...

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its amazing how easy it is to stay in line with silicon policy just by playing well.

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Gotta know why you're being arrested to know if you did it or not, since greyshirts arent meant to beat sec up for arresting them for things they 100% did I'm okay with adding the expectation that sec should be telling them why they're being arrested, but being required to present evidence before y...

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I just realised the ahelper also made a policy thread for it

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Gotta know why you're being arrested to know if you did it or not, since greyshirts arent meant to beat sec up for arresting them for things they 100% did

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it's worth considering that on mrp heretics were disabled at one point because they caused massive issues with our expectations around the mrp mindset in general. this was "fixed" by greatly reducing the lethality of sacrificing so that the consequences of them doing their role was less i...

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Refusing to obey your subverter then lying to them to get them to unlock you so that you can pretend to be unsubverted, run away, and start randomly killing people is a hell of a silicon play to come to appeal with anything other than "Sorry". Also "running off to commit random acts o...

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Least insane politics-containment argument.

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Striders13 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:43 am
TypicalRig wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:34 am He was bamboozled by his own admin team this is actually really fucking funny even if it was a mistake. This was a fuck up, but really an understandable one and wasn't really worth wasting time on a complaint.
players should rule 0 allow the admins to fuck up if it's funny

rule -1

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oooh, exciting...

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I like being able to get around the station fast. Moving slow in ss13 is the worst feeling in the world, and the game is choked full of slowdowns from both active and passive sources.

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ic issue, sec should be arresting the seller of bombs. what if the captain dubbed the bomb seller kosher, would the captain get in trouble with admins or still the guy making bombs??? I think that would in fact be on the captain? Captains have a lot of leeway to take the blame for stupid dangerous ...

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Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:32 pm Why do people think that asking for proof of sickness past a few days is some kind of crazy requirement?

well the point is they wanted a sick note for a short period, one so short that GPs won't actually offer them. Kinda a textbook unreasonable demand.

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TheBibleMelts wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:47 pm snip for mega length

Thanks for clearing all these questions up, the explanations for 2 and 4 in particular were very helpful.

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Escalation Policy We allow and encourage players to solve in-character conflicts in a good-faith and rules-compliant manner, as a properly roleplayed exception to Rule 1. It does not strictly apply when the other player is an antagonist, instead see Rule 4. A non-antagonist may start conflict with ...

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the new new new new new id sprites look kinda bad and weird, but nobody ever sees ID sprites except at the HOPline because they spend all round in PDAs anyway so its a sprite thats literally not worth arguing over.

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If you pull out a deadly weapon like a chaplain magic sword and ahelp because they destroyed your combat gear when you failed to murder them in a fight you started , you should probbably be banned for a minimum of a day to cool off. From RPR rule 8: "Childish or infantile characters should be a...

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When Meta was released, it IMMEDIATELY picked up a sizable following despite Box Inertia. I think some of what makes it work is... i'm not sure if you are confused, but meta did not pick up a sizeable following, it was hated by the main stream and banished to badger, it took ages and a second serve...

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non-human HOS sounds like the worst idea, its bad enough when the warden and officers are nonhumans so the AI completely ignores them.

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mazur907 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:47 pm in future try to show more effor please

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While rounds are constantly a sea of indeterminate chaos where station-ending threat after station-ending threat arrive in quick succession, usually before the previous one has been handled, leading to insanity like being independently attacked by three different kinds of antag while fighting a supe...

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I'd personally say that AI laws actually have quite a bit of good faith interpretation and wiggle room about them, because AIs are being played by people who may be reading the law differently to how the person who wrote it intended, and also have to actually play the game and make judgements to do ...

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who on earth evades a 24 hour ban

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it is annoying to give some rando your static name especially if theyre a clueless antag convert

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Is there any way to verify what was in a syringe gun other than what the chemist tells you what was in it? I'd assume anything getting shot at me via syringe gun is probably intent to kill. Not really, but that's not really relevant to this appeal since Sinful believed the chemist. Right, but Sinfu...

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The issue WAS reported. Literally to you, this makes all the arguments about people having no reason to report exploits moot. Placing the ban from Thunders perspective is fine, but in the appeal it becomes clear they did report it and the punishment should reflect that. And of course whether or not...

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It's already been mentioned before but Chloral hydrate is lethal in that it leaves you open and vulnerable. Last time a chemist shot me with it they proceeded to cuff me and shove me into their gas chamber/incinerator within the window opportunity the chloral gave them. This applies to all hardstun...

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Meza Reid is pronounced in a way that rhymes with "ride"? for some reason i always thought it was "reed"

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ill be real I didnt know that chloral is harmless in reasonable quantities. Mostly because i havent heard it mentioned in years, since all the chem reworks happened.

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why he pissed all over his ban appeal?

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Cant help but feel that the real issue is that its hard to spot people calling in metabuddies to rig votes on ultra-low pop rounds, not people skipping maps with a restart. PR feels kinda "code overrides to enforcement problems" to me.

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Why is it unfair to the 2 players who want to play birdshot to skip, but not unfair to the 3 players who don't want to play birdshot to prevent them from skipping a map designed to be unpleasant to play on? The maintainers explicitly want people to play on every map so they can get feedback to map ...

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Why is it unfair to the 2 players who want to play birdshot to skip, but not unfair to the 3 players who don't want to play birdshot to prevent them from skipping a map designed to be unpleasant to play on?

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nows our chance

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why do you think they make all the peanut threads?

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i dont pay enough attention to threat postround to have any idea.

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Regal rats are also one of the only side roles who dont NEED to be told "Go attack the crew" to cause trouble. They trigger air alarms and cause stinky miasma diseases passively just by existing, so the crew are usually pretty eager to club them even before they start breaking shit in main...

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conrad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:03 pm
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:58 pm Conrad you're acting like one of those players who respond to rulings against them that "SO THAT MEANS I CAN [x] when [Y] huh??? IM GONNA GO DO THAT AND TELL THE ADMIN YOU SAID SO"
If you think that's what I mean by what I said I don't think we can be friends.

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Conrad you're acting like one of those players who respond to rulings against them that "SO THAT MEANS I CAN [x] when [Y] huh??? IM GONNA GO DO THAT AND TELL THE ADMIN YOU SAID SO"

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awesome

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Also fuck this communist behaviour of expecting the HoP to give everything to someone because they asked. I mean if the HoP is refusing to hand out vitally needed station roles while mass-closing job slots as Maia claims then they're kinda griefing tbh. I don't believe that's what was actually happ...

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The reason video game characters come out best in the TTS is because its made by stealing training the language model on large amounts of lines saying all sorts of things, and video games are one of the best sources of the same voice saying a wide variety of phrases with different intensities and pi...

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