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Alright, you should be unbanned.

Kinnebian retired and, given that I also handled Sakamoto's ban, I suppose I can do this one as well.

You didn't really have much in the way of note history before this, so I'm pretty okay lifting it. Please keep in mind in the future not to discuss anything related to the round outside of the game.

I hope it doesn't actually have any mental health problems because this gets a lot less funny if that's the case

I think this might make Manuel too admin reliant threat wise, this is removing a lot of heavy midrounds and leaving like Ninja and Heavy space pirates as the remainder and for those higher pop shifts without admins we will see a torrent of complaints about the rounds threats feeling samey. I think ...

IMO a huge thing to me, IE one of my personal biggest gripes, is trying to set up gimmicks and trying to be an engaging solo antagonist is nigh impossible because dynamic sees "oh the antags aren't doing much" and injects a ton of midrounds which really disrupt a solo antagonist's ability...

Yeah, I do not like this idea. I feel like SS13 needs at least some chaos to really be a fun game, and while I agree that restricted antags can provide some of that, I believe the true SS13 experience involves sometimes just having a wizard appear next to you and pulling your skull out of your mouth...

As with most chef-protective PRs goofball did in fact make one about slime food and while I don't remember the exact implementation I think it disgusts people who are not slimepeople. Let me look at that; it might be better to undo that and keep it as an option while severely reducing how much sati...

Worth noting that Dendy did ask me in admin channels before extending the appeal period and I told her, quote, "idgaf".

As with most chef-protective PRs goofball did in fact make one about slime food and while I don't remember the exact implementation I think it disgusts people who are not slimepeople. Let me look at that; it might be better to undo that and keep it as an option while severely reducing how much sati...

I posted this in the PR but I feel like it's important to mirror it here - don't forget that silver slimes exist, are not hard to breed, and can produce any food in the game ad infinitum (though you admittedly can't pick what it makes so it can just give you nothing of value, but the time cost for ...

Frankly, I've been saying to just disable assistant outright this entire time, but this works too. As a native Sybilian it'd be a welcome change. Out of curiosity, what kind of play was making you believe they should be removed? Is this possibly a rules issue / enforcement issue and not a job one? ...

I posted this in the PR but I feel like it's important to mirror it here - don't forget that silver slimes exist, are not hard to breed, and can produce any food in the game ad infinitum (though you admittedly can't pick what it makes so it can just give you nothing of value, but the time cost for b...

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 1:08 pm Isn't setting up a competing kitchen a rules violation? Not to mention is more work than setting up an entire new medbay.

On MRP it can be, but it depends on the context of the round.

I really don't like the idea that you were banned from TGMC so recently. Not counting your Fulp ban, you've been banned from pretty much every other major SS13 server for griefing or being a creep. I don't really see a reason to lift this without proof that you're not going to be a problem. Feel fre...

It'd be neat if we could somehow not affect interns, since new players generally aren't the problem this is looking to solve. But I'd rather see this change tried out either way, and there are newbie-friendly roles like Jani and Cargo Tech. The main issue I see is that assistants clump together and...

come on Vekter, don't boil down our arguments to "nerfing = bad." I gained a lot of respect for you by seeing your replies over the last week, and I feel like if you were an outsider to this issue you could argue our point well and also the anti-caramel point too. There's validity to both...

Man, you guys are really pissed about a change that, according to you, will impact literally nobody since no one actually uses caramel like this. It's because you're taking away an option un-necessarily. No one is abusing chemistry making caramel patches to invalidate the Chef, but right now we COU...

Man, you guys are really pissed about a change that, according to you, will impact literally nobody since no one actually uses caramel like this. I know I've got skin in the game, but I think this is a good example of how /tg/'s community kind of just blows up over any sort of balance change even if...

Very opposed to this. I don’t want people taking up job slots and then not doing their job because they wanted to be an assistant. People constantly think of assistant as THE tider role when many other people pick it to also hang around and chat with the crew or do cool little projects and gimmicks...

Higgin wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 10:59 pm edit: i'd even go higher than 20-30 to like 40 or 50

What's the threshold for Graveyard Shift access?

I really don't see why not. There are jobs (Engineer, Cargo, MD, Janitor) that can pretty easily just vibe during lowpop for a little bit between emergencies and I feel like I'd rather have those people on the hook for getting stuff done when need be and otherwise just hanging out working on whateve...

It's actually quite fun. You fix the hole, and drag a heater around from the outside in, letting the air equalise through doors. I find it relaxing, seeing the firelocks dissapear next to the heater as I drag it around. I have never been able to get that to work, so maybe you're just built differen...

Looks like this ban was applied by Dragmeme: [2023-12-23 09:57:57 | note by thedragmeme] Banned from the server permanently - Quality Control, Rule 0: For quotes such as: "i like little girls" and "i have aids" on top of a shit note history. Get the fuck out and stay the fuck out...

we account for things like pop changes between rounds, but the factor i'm most interested in (which i'm not sure we account for or if you can even extrapolate it from the existing data) is whether or not seeing a map other than one of these on the lobby screen, compounded with low population, makes...

because it would be a distinct controlled experiment with no frills that's easy to understand and impossible to ignore or dismiss as opposed to extrapolations from historical data that are unwieldy and arguably don't account for other factors You can feel free to insult me for this, but I don't rea...

I suggested this a while back as a trial but sure, I don't see an issue with it. I think my only concern would be the Campbell problem (people not moving over because they don't want to split from their friends) but it's worth a shot.

I also think that it's very unprofessional to allow banning admins to review their own ban appeals because it promotes bias. It would require the admin to backpedal and apologize which is especially unlikely for most tg admins (most of you are very stubborn). There have been several instances this ...

I feel like someone intentionally doing a bad job, in a way that is detrimental to others and negatively impacts others, is reason enough to circumvent them. I think Rule 9 is meant to give people the opportunity to play out the role they signed up for. If their choice, because they are the ones ch...

Local player fails the vibe check, continues to double down

Looks like you were banned by omega_darkpotato for "openly stated that people should grief fulp as it's not worth anything else".

I have notified them.

to be fair "the data" would be a lot more convincing if you ran the experiment suggested by this thread and actually did just run one map for a while, then you could say "hey we did that and it didnt do anything" I feel like the people who want that done are kind of hoping that ...

A few things. One, the departments are all super seperated, so departments that are not visited often get visited even less often. For example, the library or chapel. Nobody goes to those. Being a curator feels like you are in a separate station all together. The SM room has two APCs. One for the S...

Proper IC job switching or getting permissions from the appropriate staff members (head of department or the department staff themselves) is never a lane breach. Back when I played there was a virologist main who'd usually mash out a neat virus then come swing by genetics and help discover any rema...

I think first of all this rule should be based on department rather than job, since there's a lot of inter-job overlap in pretty much every department. Barman should be allowed to serve food, Coroner should be allowed to revive people and do surgeries, Cargo Tech should be able to supply the statio...

Arresting and mindshielding is a very reasonable approach for secoff but if you're not sec you likely don't have the tools to arrest someone and if you see someone get randomly flashed there's a very high probability you're next so getting the jump on them and killing them before they can get you m...

Okay I mostly agree with what you said except for when people have to pack up their commissary or other big projects because a freshie joined in. Doesn't that seem like a lot? And assistants get maint kitchen, maint bar, etc, specifically to play around with these job mechanics without the stress o...

I'm also curious about a few other hypotheticals and questions, if anyone wants to share their opinions: 1. Medbay is operating, staffed, but a robust xenobiologist is printing lots of slime core full heals and putting them around the hallways. Most injured people, instead of going to medbay, use a...

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 4:50 pm you’ve heard of the great wall of admin complaint people, now get ready for the 2nd wonder of the world, the great text pyramids of players club

I get that you're joking, but it only makes sense that a valid complaint would generate a lot of discussion. It doesn't happen very often.

It always gets tricky. What about the botanist making mad-insane dummy thicc fruit that can rival any meal, so nobody goes to the chef for food and everyone just grabs a gamer melon. Compare that still to the chemist that makes patches with reagents that metabolise into satiety. To me the key has a...

I think there's a discussion to be had here about the idea of when it's acceptable to stray from your lane into someone else's. I think some admins believe it's not okay for someone to do someone else's job if they're doing a really shitty job of it, and some admins do think that's acceptable for th...

Does anyone actually like these stay in your lane rules because they seem massively unpopular and personally I've only had experience with them when admins are powertripping. These are stories from other servers, but (removed yapping about other servers because it's irrelevant). Really makes me que...

Constellado wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 2:58 am I don't like tram.

Why not

Shut down Terry too and let's move to MRP only

Just having a flash isn't enough but IMO just randomly flashing someone out of the blue especially if just suddenly leave the person you flashed alone is extremely convincing evidence that you're a rev and is getting you mindshielded at best and killed at worst and you have basically no recourse to...

I don't feel strongly about Birdshot itself - it's okay , I don't agree with a lot of the criticism surrounding it (or at least don't think it's dramatic enough to warrant all the hate it gets), but I understand it being unpopular so I'm fine with its removal. I would like to see either the return o...

Sakamoto4ka wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 6:15 am cant join.
Banned by host. You, or another user of this computer or connection(Cringebase) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is metacomming with(my ban reason but cringebase pov)

Cringebase is not my alt

Fixed, you should be good.

Alright, I believe you should be able to join now.

But the player wasn’t being aggressive at all! The entire situation was drag telling Selena to not mess with the chemist very aggressively, and Selena attempting to explain and deescalate the situation. Correct. I wasn't talking about this specific instance, I was speaking in general. I'm not comme...

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